Saturday, June 9, 2007

Who's afraid of the truth?

The Wikipedia page about the Talpiot Tomb is full of errors. omissions and misrepresentations. Thus it omits reference to the three books discussing this find published prior to the airing of the Discovery channel documentary in April 2007. It also omits reference to the most important symbol involved in this find, though it features a "Symbols" section. It claims that the tomb has been dated to between 538 BC and 70 AD , while the fact is that the longest dating was between the end of the first century BC and 70 AD. It insists that the archeologist who led the team that excavated the tomb in 1980 was Amos Kloner, whereas it was Joseph Gath, etc. etc.

When I tried to edit that page correctly, somebody sitting there who probably believed he was protecting religious dogma kept frantically deleting my entries, until I gave up this childish game. At least on this subject, Wikipedia is completely worthless.

4 comments:

Anders Branderud said...

Hello Itamar!
You posted a post in my blog.
I think that Wikipedia is worthless! I never use it!

If you want to now more about Paqid Yirmeyahu ha-Tzadiqs work about the Talpiot tomb, than read here:

www.netzarim.co.il ; click at “History Museum” in the left panel
click at ”Mashiakh” in the top menu; scroll down to ”Talpiot Tomb”; click on the burning scroll; click at “Stats Update 2008.04.22: Probability Talpiot Tomb not that of Ribi Yehoshua Family — 1:1,600!!!”

With further count of probabilities the calculation become:
"1:95,364,192,000,000— and that's without taking into account the specificity (Ya•aqov + "son of Yoseiph" + "brother of Yeshua") of the entire inscription being recently authenticated after earlier being decried—wrongly and hysterically–as a fake. This would raise the probability far higher.
"
How we got that number - se the above research (link).

From Anders Branderud

Itamar Bernstein said...

Thanks Anders. My book was the first to incoporate a statistical analysis of the Talpiot tomb. Did you factor also "Matay?" He belongs in the tomb, as Jesus' first cousin.

Fr. Robert Hart said...

Actually, the ossuary proves nothing. The odds of any Jewish family NOT having those names in that land, in that era, is what would be very much against the odds. This is why real science laughs the whole "lost tomb" to scorn. Only a fool could swallow such non-sense. There were many, many men named Jesus, with families full of Miriams, Josephs, Jacobs, etc. This is why any intelligent person rejects the junk science of this whole sales-oriented project. It is not science, but mere sensationalism, with false "odds" calculated to fool only the most credulous fools. Of course, the whole point is to SELL the book, and so the scorn of scientists, such as archeologists and real historians, does not affect the enterprise (and the most damning criticism has not come from Christian sources, but from Jewish sources, real scientists in Israel who object to seeing archeology misrepresented).

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